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Redemption is possible for anyone ..laws of probabilty not with standing...when one looks througj the prism of the justice system this case shows the penchant for over charging some....when one is convicted of the man act it has been generally proven your A PIMP..and you have committed acts that verify same! ...hint....the pimp does not pay for the services ...he provides said services for a fee..he (the alleged Pimp) is not a client!...of said services.

In this case he acted like a assitant pimp at best..and it says here he was pimping as hobbist at the most...talk legal absurdness....the person who pays for pimping related services is a client.. by the way it doesnt take a nine week trial to demonstrate Pimping activity ....Unless your Overcharging an absolute penchent when observing the penal system (see what i did there) If you are a juror you would eventually ask why after recieving 10 to 20 million dollars as a settlement why is she at a trail that is about pimping when she was involved?..what was the benifit for her?..(oh those insnane juror questions)

Lastly the biggest thing that comes to mind ..how does one get convicted at a criminal jury trail and is allowed to just walk out the building?

Oh I know you have to named Donald....no one seems to think theres anything unusal about that???

How can you take this stuff serious...famous rap lyrics

YOU THOUGH I WAS A DONUT YOU TRIED TO GLAZE ME....

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To be honest, I don’t think all people can be redeemed. This is an issue I’ve grappled with for a while in my art.

I think it’s generally good to believe in redemption, or to at least try to view all the people in a story of abuse with nuance and compassion, and not just label them one way or another. But I also sympathize / feel sorry for the people who don’t know how to treat stories like this with care for the same reason: a lot of them have been through frightening experiences and others didn’t take their pain seriously. “Hurt people hurt people” is generally true.

For me personally, there is a line for when I start to view an abuser as irredeemable. Within the spectrum of sexual violence stories, there are people who have only harmed one person, and there are people who’ve harmed many people. Time and number of offenses is also a factor to consider; how long did the abuse go on for, and how many times did it happen? Severity of abuse is another factor; while not everyone is traumatized by the same event to the same degree, generally, the more violent and painful an act is, the more traumatizing it is. For example, forced anal penetration is usually more traumatizing than being groped. And finally, the age of the victims. This is not to discredit or shame older victims, but to say that we generally view abusers of children more unfavorably than abusers of adults. Also, some perpetrators of abuse on children ARE ALSO children themselves. But the younger a perpetrator is, this also makes us look more favorably on them.

If someone has harmed many people (especially younger people), over many years, with a whole lot of offenses that were extremely traumatizing and painful… I really don’t know how that person could say “I’m sorry” and tell the story of their own traumatized childhood, and for that to be enough. Even if they gave up all their money and material possessions and lived destitute for the rest of their life, the pain that kind of person felt and could feel can never outweigh the pain of their victims.

The prison system definitely upholds this idea that we should punish rather than try to reconcile. But what’s the alternative for the most dangerous people (I’m talking serial offenders of violent crimes)? Especially if you don’t believe in the death penalty?

I have a fanfic I’ve been working on for a while that has different stories of abuse within it. There’s a father whose family is trapped in a religious cult who molested one of his daughters. He ultimately steps forward with regret for what he did many years ago and tries to make amends by staying no contact with the affected daughter (as per her preference), and donating to organizations that help survivors. Different members of the family are split between still living with and / or loving him, and staying away from him, or somewhere in between. This is on the most sympathetic side of the spectrum for me, and there are a lot of stories like this.

Now we get a bit more absurd. There’s a woman who castrated multiple men and boys for a sex slavery business. There was also hypnosis involved; that was another guy’s doing. She suffered a lot of violence in her childhood, into more recent adulthood as well (including watching her own daughter be taken away from her to die), and then she takes responsibility for her part in continuing the cycle by traveling with a therapist and helping rehabilitate some of these affected people. She’s often viewed with fear and ostracized by most people, so she’s also “paying for it” by being extremely lonely. This character would probably be hated by many readers, loved by others, and viewed with mixed feelings by the rest.

Finally, on the blackest end of the spectrum (black as in the furthest away from morality), we have a serial child rapist, who killed one of his victims, and was planning to kill two others in his possession before they were saved. There were at least a dozen victims before that; children at a school he taught at. They didn’t die but they were violently abused. This character is taking inspiration somewhere between real life and fiction. In pianist James Rhodes’ memoir Instrumental, he talks about being raped by his gym teacher when he was only 5 years old. Another former teacher of his spoke out years later with regret that she did not speak out sooner, because she noticed multiple students were afraid of that teacher. I’m also basing this character in significant part off of Judge Holden from Blood Meridian, who was also based off a real person. The real nightmare fuel for me is the fact that people who harm and even kill other people for pleasure actually do exist. They are in the extreme minority of abusers, but they are out there. These people are so far beyond morality that they are likened to “the devil himself”. And they don’t apologize for their actions.

There’s no single answer to how we should treat abusers because there’s a whole spectrum of abusers out there. To me, it doesn’t matter what someone’s childhood was like after a certain point. Monsters do exist in human skin but they are rare. We get some catharsis out of telling stories about them (I mean just look at how popular true crime is, and how fiction often leans towards villains who feel no remorse), but the overrepresentation of the most vile in our narratives may be part of the reason why some people treat *everyone* they don’t like like a monster.

People like tidy narratives and black and white morality. People like sports teams and having a common enemy. We have pack mentality. We don’t like threats to the pack. We vilify anyone who we think disrupts the fabric of society (as long as we hold that society dear), whether it’s Diddy for his abuse, or any so-called “prostitutes”. Sexually empowered women are often considered threats to society. Openly acknowledging sex in any capacity threatens society, because we built brick by brick a society that shames our sexuality and therefore shames anyone who has sex for or against their will. Denying and purifying the whole reason we exist tends to cause problems.

Victims view their abuse as their fault because the rules of sex according to western Christian society are that it only happens if you invited it somehow. Temptation always comes from the woman, or the woman-like receiving body, a la Adam and Eve. Men only do wrong if they are corrupted by the flesh of another. This is incorrect, of course. Why must women and girls (as it is most often women and girls) take responsibility for the actions of all of man-kind?

Compassion is another kind of responsibility in the end. I don’t think abusers are entitled to anyone’s compassion, especially not from their victims. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to feel compassion, but that it should not be women’s responsibility to “feel for” any man that harms us, especially when they don’t offer the same “feeling for” in return. Thanks for reading.

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